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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:59 am

A man profiled in last week's edition of the Crestline Courier-News as a 31-year veteran of U.S. Navy SEAL Team 6 is apparently not who he claimed to be, a subsequent investigation has determined.

Numerous phone calls, e-mails and blogs on the newspaper's website challenged the tale told by a man identified in the story as Carl, who claimed to have been until 2010 the commanding officer of the elite SEAL team credited with killing Osama bin Laden last May.

Jerome "Punch" Ringhofer, a U.S. Army veteran, a 30-year sheriff's investigator, a Crest Forest Fire Protection District director and the friend of several Navy SEALs, said "the totality of inconsistencies and improbability" of Carl's claims convinced him the claims were false.

A Freedom of Information request to ascertain whether Carl was ever trained as a Navy SEAL was submitted this week. However, Eric Erdmann, Freedom of Information coordinator at the Navy's base in Coronado, California, said confirmation could not be provided by press time.

However, Wikipedia, the online Encyclopedia, says SEAL Team 6 was disbanded in 1987 and replaced by a new unit, designated at the Navy's Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU).

The final commanding officer of the unit formerly known as SEAL Team 6 listed on that website was Capt. Scott P. Moore, who led the unit from 2004-06, a period that includes the time Carl claimed to have led the unit.

Asked about the accuracy of this online information, Erdmann said on behalf of the Navy he could not confirm or deny its content.

Communications from several present and former SEALs expressed anger over Carl's claims. "His story does not add up and is full of falsehoods," said one unsigned blog.

One caller cited the federal Stolen Valor Act, signed into law by President George W. Bush on Dec. 20, 2006. Under that law, it is a federal misdemeanor to falsely represent oneself as having received any U.S. military decoration or medal.

That act may not apply in Carl's case, however, as he made no claims to this newspaper that he received any medals for his service.

According to a story broadcast last May by the CBS-TV affiliate in San Diego, former SEAL Capt. Larry Bailey and other decorated veterans have co-founded a website,, which had reportedly exposed about 35,000 fake Navy SEALs as of that date.

Persons suspecting that someone is posing as a military member or veteran can report them to the website, the TV news story said.

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  • Michael Houston posted at 1:28 am on Thu, Dec 4, 2014.

    Michael Houston Posts: 40

    If he really is making false claims then they need to figure out the reason behind such action. Perhaps they should conduct a background check to find out his real identity. However, by making such claims he is dishonoring the brave members of the defense team who risked their lives for such an operation. The brave souls who sacrifice their lives for the country, however, there are funeral services providers who offer special services for such occasions, you can find out more on this at

  • Willis Hanna posted at 1:41 am on Thu, Nov 27, 2014.

    Willis Hanna Posts: 48

    They should conduct proper inquiry to gather proper information about this man. It would be better if they acquire military support to investigate into this matter, if the man is making false claims then some action should be taken against him immediately.

  • Michael Houston posted at 12:46 am on Fri, Nov 7, 2014.

    Michael Houston Posts: 40

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  • Willis Hanna posted at 2:03 am on Fri, Oct 31, 2014.

    Willis Hanna Posts: 48

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  • Michael Houston posted at 3:52 am on Thu, Oct 30, 2014.

    Michael Houston Posts: 40

    They need to investigate this issue to find out whether the man is making the right claim or not. These days one can not get away with making any such false claims, now people are more connected to each other and they have plenty of online resources for making verifications. In fact, the trend of virtual shopping also has become popular, one can even find items like reloading supplies online at

  • marvinvinn posted at 3:34 am on Wed, Oct 15, 2014.

    marvinvinn Posts: 41

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  • negruvoda posted at 11:07 am on Thu, Aug 21, 2014.

    negruvoda Posts: 40

    We still have a high rate of domestic violence and the Government should do something about this problem. Conscientious people have a gun in their home and a Florida Concealed Weapons Permit to have the legal right to use it, but it seems that burglars aren't scared about this fact. So, the crime rate isn't reduced. Why?

  • docrio posted at 1:04 pm on Sun, Aug 28, 2011.

    docrio Posts: 1

    Capt. Larry Bailey, Don Shipley, and others are allowed the USNavy SEAL database.

    It is good of your newspaper to, at least, print that this man is a SEAL wannabe.

    The world is full of men with self esteem lower than whale doo-doo. Their personality

    disorder suggest a dire need for psychiatric consultation. Maybe they are not "crazy" only a lot "stupid?"

    Doc Rio
    El Menos de Magnifico II

  • MtnSoldier posted at 12:30 pm on Fri, Aug 26, 2011.

    MtnSoldier Posts: 6

    So, do we have a last name with this "Carl"? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • I Love Fiction posted at 10:50 am on Fri, Aug 26, 2011.

    I Love Fiction Posts: 1

    Come on, time to fess up. Carl existed only in the mind of the reporter, didn't he?